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Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Early Retirement with Kids

Posted by Robert on April 11, 2011

This is a guest post by Robert, who lives in Calgary and works as a financial adviser. He is married, has three kids and plans to retire at age 35.  Robert and his wife then plan to return to school and become teachers, eventually living and working overseas.

I have three young children, ages 2, 4 and 6. They are a big part of my life, and all I know about trying to retire early is intertwined with having children. In some ways, having kids makes it harder to retire early, but in other ways they make it easier. There are lots of ways that parents could spend bundles of money based on having children. On the other hand, children prevent parents from spending bundles of money on themselves. Without suggesting that there is any one “right” way to do it, here is how we approach saving money while having kids.

One of the choices we made early on was not to get cable. It reduces our monthly costs, but there is also the benefit (as I’ve noticed when the kids watch shows on cable elsewhere) that they don’t see advertising. This past week, while we’ve been on vacation, my oldest has sat in front of the TV while each advertisement for toys plays, saying “I want that, I want that, I want that.” There is no chance that we’ll get cable at home. Instead, we watch DVDs, some of which we bought at garage sales, some of which were gifts from grandparents, some of which we borrow from the library. In each case, there is little or no cost, but the kids still get to enjoy watching many different shows.

The library is actually one of my favourite places. For a nominal annual fee of $12, we have almost unlimited access to books, CDs and DVDs. It’s an indoor place to go during the winter and has the additional benefit for the kids that if they learn to love reading, it will boost their academic performance. We have internet and a computer at home, but if we didn’t, the library also provides access to computers with office software and internet access.

We take our kids to a variety of local playgrounds. In fact, we chose our house based on it’s proximity to a large playground and a community lake. Having these amenities nearby avoids wanting to build a playground in the back yard or wanting to put the kids in activity classes. Eventually, they’ll probably play community soccer or basketball, but we won’t put them in expensive and time-consuming sports like hockey. They can develop social skills while playing in an unstructured setting outdoors.

We are very fortunate to have high quality public schools, which our kids will attend. In each of these areas, we benefit from public goods and programs which are free or almost free and available to all. I want to be able to spend time with my kids while they’re young, not only when they’re teenagers and no longer want to be close to their family. It reduces the cost of programs and nannying, but it’s also what makes early retirement worthwhile for me.

The children do impose some limitations on the things I would otherwise choose to do with my time and money. I won’t take them to eat in expensive restaurants because they wouldn’t be well-behaved, but also because it would be wasted on them. I wouldn’t take them on vacation to Europe for sight-seeing, because the airfare and hotel cost would be prohibitive and it wouldn’t be memorable for them. Instead, on the occasions we eat out, it’s generally fast food (or Asian food) that is quick, inexpensive and casual. Our family vacation has been to Phoenix during spring break, where we have friends and cousins for the kids to play with, family activities and people to stay with.

There seems to be little comparison to retiring early with and without children. Both are possible, but each will be a different journey. Without debating whether or not a person should have children, which is a personal choice, how has having or not having children has affected your journey?

The $20 Kid Birthday Party

Posted by Canadian Dream on January 13, 2011

My oldest son is just on the edge of being done with birthday parties that are just family.  In the next year or two I fully expect him to start getting invites to parties and then want a have friends over for his own party.  Yet in the mean time I still get to pull off the easy version where we just have some coffee and cake in the middle of a Saturday afternoon.

Our typical birthday party for our kids are low key affairs.  After all, all the kid really wants are a few presents and a cake.  So we give him just that.  Granted I tend to have fun making the cakes since I typically do something different each year.  In my past my boys have had boat cakes, construction sites, giant cars, race tracks and dinosaur cakes.  Yet ironically making fun cakes don’t really cost a lot of money (I love candy from the bulk bins).  So this year I’m trying my hand at a Lego themed cake with ingredents that set me back $11.  Then I just need to pick up a few decorations from the dollar store (mainly balloons, which also double as toys) and we have an party for less than $20.

It is sort of amusing to me to read stories like this one where parents spend $1000′s on a child’s birthday party.  From my own memories I most treasure the feeling of just being really special for one day a year.  I got to pick what we had for supper on my birthday as a small kid and then the restaurant we ate at when I got older.  I also got to pick what kind of cake I would like and I got a few presents.  What more did I need?

So if you have kids, how much do you spend on their birthday party (and what age are they)?  If you don’t have kids, what did you remember from your own birthday parties as a child?

Back To School Spending

Posted by Canadian Dream on August 26, 2010

The kids start back to school next week around here and that means buying ‘stuff’.  Some it makes sense like new shoes since my oldest is entering Kindergarten this fall and he out grew his last pair.  I would like to take the credit for keeping our over all school related bill low, but that actually was my wife.

First off she did not buy any new clothes for the start of school, instead she knows our son tends to our grow this clothes by about October.  So when on vacation she picked up some pants and shirts in the next size up on clearance.  So that was taken care of over a month ago.  The added advantage here is this is my son’s first time at this school so having ‘new’ clothes is rather pointless as he has no friends there to impress.

Then when the school supply list arrived she went shopping for the few items we didn’t have around the house such as:

Shoes – $18.92 (splurge item to get the Transformer pair)
Plastic school box for markers, etc -$2.26
Two Sets of Markers – $5.00
Large Scrapbook – $3.29
School Fees – $13 classroom, $4.50 agenda, $4.50 bus fees for class trips

Total $51.47

So after the splurge item of ‘cool shoes’ the next biggest cost item on the list was school fees.  Overall I’m not complaining about the agenda since I know that is done at cost.  I’m even ok with fee for class trips but I don’t understand what is included in the classroom fees.  So my wife sent a note to the teacher asking so what is up with that, but I haven’t heard what the answer is yet.

Since we are new to this ‘back to school’ shopping I’m not sure how that total ranks compared to other people or what ideas people have on saving money on back to school shopping.  So all you experienced parents out there, how much did you spend this year and do you keep you ‘back to school’ shopping bill down?