Posted by Canadian Dream on December 3, 2009
Well yesterday I pointed out some flaws in upgrading the CPP system to a Universal Pension Plan. That’s not to say I think we should do nothing. Since doing nothing will have some issues like:
- OAS – Payments come out of general revenue from the government, if we don’t fix pensions we could end up having a lot of people relying heavily on this meaning making any reduction in payments could be a very long and hard uphill battle as the tax base sinks after the baby boomers retire.
- Government Defined Benefit Plans – These will become much more of a burden on the tax base if we don’t deal with plans sooner than later.
- People Shouldn’t be Left Behind. Granted there is case for offering retirees a minimum standard of living since we don’t want be heartless about things and second there is a basic economic idea behind this. Poor people tend to use more government services that those that are better off. If we do nothing we still pay in the end, so let’s be proactive and nice all at once.
So here’s the outline of my modest proposal.
- Make the Default Option on all Retirement Savings Plans an Opt In. The idea here is simple, people are lazy, so let’s make saving easy for them. Also people don’t tend to notice they are saving if it comes off their cheque. So if you really don’t want to save in the plan you need to file paper work to that effect.
- Raise the YMPE by $20,000 for CPP. This would only be a one time adjustment to boost inflows to the CPP plan and raise the maximum payout by about $4700 per year (FYI: current YMPE is $46,300 and max pension is $10,905/year). The brilliant thing about this adjustment is it won’t significantly alter benefits to boomers since CPP benefits are calculated with the average of your earnings during your working life. So a raise of contributions by the boomers just a few years prior to their retirement will only very slightly increase their payouts. This will also allow existing retirees to keep more pension money if their spouse dies and they take over their spouses CPP payout. This is a good idea since right now if a spouse dies and you are both at the maximum CPP payout it can drop the surviving spouse into near poverty conditions if they have no additional savings since they also lose their spouses OAS. Also raising the YMPE won’t effect those in lower income jobs by taking any more money from them and will allow younger people who pay in for longer to get more of the benefit over their working life. Total additional cost per person per month is $82.50 assuming you make up the maximum YMPE. So it’s a modest impact even for those that are going to retire early.
- Close off all Defined Benefit Government Run Plans. Then switch all new workers over to a defined contribution. We collectively can’t afford the unlimited liability from these defined benefit plans going forward.
So that’s my modest fix for pensions and retirement savings in Canada. Now obviously I likely haven’t thought of every angle on this yet, so I want to hear your ideas on this proposal. Is it good, bad, or do you have a better idea? Please share your ideas with a comment.
Posted by Canadian Dream on December 2, 2009
So with all of this mess around pensions what should be done? Well there has been discussion from various groups with potential solutions. One of the more interesting ones was a proposal from CARP (Canadian Association of Retired Persons) which was discussed on the Wealth Boomer blog.
Here’s a summary of the key points:
CARP says pension experts agree retirement income from all sources must replace between 60 and 70% of working income. Currently, the CPP provides at most 25% of Year’s Maximum Pensionable Earnings (YMPE): $46,300 in 2009. Thus, for those without employer-sponsored private pensions, the maximum CPP benefit this year is $10,905.
CARP suggests gradually phasing in a UPP so that coverage would eventually cover 70% of pre-retirement income to a maximum pensionable earning limit of $116,667 (which is the 2009 limit for Registered Pension Plans). Like the CPP, the UPP would be a mandatory enrollment plan. CARP is wary of any version that would let individuals “opt out.”
The issue with a truly universal pension plan is someone still has to fund it. In this case that someone would be you and your company (ie: they raise prices and their customers pay it). So let’s assume for the moment we want to double the coverage of CPP to 50% replacement of YMPE and raise the YMPE to $166,667 (It’s not exactly the CARP proposal, but similar to some others I’ve seen). That would mean that we would need to first double our contributions for both the worker and employer from 4.95% each to 9.9% each and then have to keep paying CPP on just about every dime of income you make.
In a realistic sense this would change the contributions of someone making $75,000 a year from the maximum of $2118 per year now to $7425 under the new proposal. That would be an increase of over 250%, that your employer would also have to match. No wonder CARP is wary of any version that let’s people opt out because you would see a huge number of people willing to take the risk of doing it on their own and keep their money. This would be like the government jacking up taxes by 5% just about every person and business in Canada at every level of taxation.
This unfortunately is the issue with any radical reform to a mandatory plan is it places a huge burden on everyone and I think most of us are not really willing to make that trade for a benefit that we won’t see until we turn 65. I know some people might be with that trade off, but the whole idea is working under this proposal is basically that people are idiots and can’t manage to save for retirement by themselves. We don’t need a nanny state where the government does everything for you since you can’t be trusted to do it yourself.
So where does this leave us? Well I’ll take a try at proposing a solution tomorrow, but in the mean time what do you think of increasing mandatory savings plans? Would you stay in a plan like I outlined above or not?
Posted by Dave on December 1, 2009
What would you do if your pension disappeared? Would this significantly impact your retirement plans?
In recent months there have been many reports of pension plans collapsing or reducing benefits, eroding many retiree’s standards of living. What triggered the problems being experienced?
- The stock market collapse: Pension plans are basically big pools of money that are invested in the stock market on behalf of employees. When the market dropped 50%, employers were on the hook to make up this difference, which was a problem because of the recession.
- Recession: In an economy where many businesses are going bankrupt or barely hanging on, employers who are having trouble paying general operating expenses are not going to be able to make up significant shortfalls in their pension plan caused by the market collapse (or even stay in business). An obvious example of an underfunded and tanking company is Nortel, which went bankrupt in January and whose pension plan holders can now count on either significantly reduced or no pension. The company was unable to make enough income to keep itself alive, let alone the retired workers.
- Poor regulation: Many employees have no idea whether their pensions are funded adequately or if a shortfall will leave their retirement plans significantly underfunded. Just months before bankruptcy in 2002, Slater Steel received an excellent report from a actuary, only to find that they were in fact 40% underfunded, leading to significant cuts in benefits (35%) – the actuary examining the fund was fined $15,000 and his organization placed him under supervision for 6 months. Obviously, the people who are supposed to ensure that pensions are properly funded (the actuaries) do not see the massive miscalculation made to be a big deal in this case and the courts threw the case out – leaving little recourse to retirees and workers from the plant.
The first two points are probably more of a factor in the current problems pensions are experiencing, with the third being recognized as a problem after the fact as employees have no recourse once the business is bankrupt – there is no way they are going to get the pension pool funded.
The general aging of Canada’s population will put additional stress on pension plans in coming years. With an aging population, the pension pool will have less money coming in then going out, leaving a deficit that may cause underfunding when the younger generation retires. Couple aging with a severe market downturn and the economy at a low-point and it would seem there are bad times ahead for retirees dependent on their company’s plan.
Personally, I am involved in a defined benefit plan administered by a third-party and funded by a crown agency – I’m really not too worried about the fund at all. Additionally, given that I am planning on retiring 20 years before I would be able to access the pension funds, a collapse would not really cause much change to my retirement funds.
I have mixed feelings for the retirees affected after reading various articles on pension fund (here’s a good one) collapses – on one hand I feel terrible for individuals involved because many of them are at an age where working is the last things on their mind. On the other hand, most of the reports interview people who worked at the same factory for 40+ years and who are upset because they have lost 35% of their pension income. I guess it’s foreign to me that these people didn’t have an alternative retirement fund and essentially banked on one source of income to fund them the rest of their lives. In one case a Nortel employee stated they also owned mainly Nortel stock to go along with their Nortel pension(not exactly diversification at its best). To me, putting all of my retirement eggs in one basket seems very risky – some foresight would probably have helped many of these people.
My suggestion to anyone involved with a pension plan is to treat it like any other investment in your retirement basket in such a way that if it were taken away, you would not be destitute. I have a feeling that for readers of blogs such as this one, this may not be an issue, but for someone who does not address their finances on a regular basis, the collapse of a pension would cause significant problems that may not be able to be overcome.
I should note, I am not overly concerned about the Canada Pension Plan. After significantly increasing contribution rates in 2008, from all reports this fund will not collapse and should be able to provide the funds it is supposed to, making it one of the few public pension plans worldwide (along with Australia) that are going to be solvent for the foreseeable future.
Are you worried about your pension? Is it going to be your sole source of income at retirement, or do you have other funds that will provide income after you are done working?