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		<title>By: jody</title>
		<link>http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/2010/02/23/my-banking-system/comment-page-1/#comment-40508</link>
		<dc:creator>jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Dave.  Always interesting to read how non-rich others organize their financing.

I have a similar setup but a bit more simplified (all with PC)
- 1 checking
- 1 line of credit (0 balance)
- 1 credit card (always paid off - never paid interest)
- multiple saving accounts for different purposes: vacations, annual RESP contributions, house renovations, car maintenance that could happen, etc.

I recently consulted with Investors Group for some advice about maximizing savings for long and short-term goals: the interest on my PC savings is pathetic.  I should at least use those new tax-free savings accounts, but IG thinks they can do better so I going to let them manage some short-term savings while I maintain a tax-free savings accoutn with PC - just to compare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Dave.  Always interesting to read how non-rich others organize their financing.</p>
<p>I have a similar setup but a bit more simplified (all with PC)<br />
- 1 checking<br />
- 1 line of credit (0 balance)<br />
- 1 credit card (always paid off &#8211; never paid interest)<br />
- multiple saving accounts for different purposes: vacations, annual RESP contributions, house renovations, car maintenance that could happen, etc.</p>
<p>I recently consulted with Investors Group for some advice about maximizing savings for long and short-term goals: the interest on my PC savings is pathetic.  I should at least use those new tax-free savings accounts, but IG thinks they can do better so I going to let them manage some short-term savings while I maintain a tax-free savings accoutn with PC &#8211; just to compare.</p>
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		<title>By: dlm</title>
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		<dc:creator>dlm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s like shopping for food or anything -- might as well try a new store for a better price.
See Gail Vaz-Oxlade&#039;s blog Jan 22 Entitled and Feb 8 Survey on Banks.
One point for future use: CWB has good GIC RRSP rates but poor RIF policies: you cannot take a withdrawal the same year you convert to a GIC RIF; when you do, the interest is slashed -- the red big bank allows immediate withdrawals of any amount and does not lower interest for GIC RIFs (but I have many issues with them and am looking for a better FI)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like shopping for food or anything &#8212; might as well try a new store for a better price.<br />
See Gail Vaz-Oxlade&#8217;s blog Jan 22 Entitled and Feb 8 Survey on Banks.<br />
One point for future use: CWB has good GIC RRSP rates but poor RIF policies: you cannot take a withdrawal the same year you convert to a GIC RIF; when you do, the interest is slashed &#8212; the red big bank allows immediate withdrawals of any amount and does not lower interest for GIC RIFs (but I have many issues with them and am looking for a better FI)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Tim: Once I wrote it out, it seemed pretty complicated - I guess I didn&#039;t really notice because it&#039;s kind of evolved that way over the years.

CIBC charges fees every time I use my card, which I don&#039;t like so I don&#039;t use that for spending.

I read a lot of blogs and listen to a ton of podcasts - over the past year or two I&#039;ve started to donate a bit of money every once in a while to support the creators.  It&#039;s not a lot, no more then $5/month in total (I switch between sites every month), but I figure that if everyone donated $2 once in a while, it would really help the creator of the podcast/blog.....some of them have money processors that I don&#039;t know so I figure I&#039;d limit my liability.

@ dlm - I like the idea of scratch and win for extra money - I&#039;ve never seen that in Ontario.

@ Dana - I get frustrated about CIBC&#039;s fees every once in a while, especially since I really don&#039;t ask them for a ton of service every month - thanks for the tips around the credit card accounts and using the banks.

@ Robert - I&#039;ll have to check out Ally.ca - might need to add another account at some point :)

@ Financial Student - I&#039;m trying to get up to 6 months expenses saved for an emergency fund, I just feel more comfortable having that for if me or my wife loses our job - it would take a lot of stress out of the situation vs. borrowing to make up shortfalls.

Good luck on paying down your line of credit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tim: Once I wrote it out, it seemed pretty complicated &#8211; I guess I didn&#8217;t really notice because it&#8217;s kind of evolved that way over the years.</p>
<p>CIBC charges fees every time I use my card, which I don&#8217;t like so I don&#8217;t use that for spending.</p>
<p>I read a lot of blogs and listen to a ton of podcasts &#8211; over the past year or two I&#8217;ve started to donate a bit of money every once in a while to support the creators.  It&#8217;s not a lot, no more then $5/month in total (I switch between sites every month), but I figure that if everyone donated $2 once in a while, it would really help the creator of the podcast/blog&#8230;..some of them have money processors that I don&#8217;t know so I figure I&#8217;d limit my liability.</p>
<p>@ dlm &#8211; I like the idea of scratch and win for extra money &#8211; I&#8217;ve never seen that in Ontario.</p>
<p>@ Dana &#8211; I get frustrated about CIBC&#8217;s fees every once in a while, especially since I really don&#8217;t ask them for a ton of service every month &#8211; thanks for the tips around the credit card accounts and using the banks.</p>
<p>@ Robert &#8211; I&#8217;ll have to check out Ally.ca &#8211; might need to add another account at some point <img src='http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Financial Student &#8211; I&#8217;m trying to get up to 6 months expenses saved for an emergency fund, I just feel more comfortable having that for if me or my wife loses our job &#8211; it would take a lot of stress out of the situation vs. borrowing to make up shortfalls.</p>
<p>Good luck on paying down your line of credit!</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just 1 bank account, 1 credit card, 1 line of credit for me. 

I use my credit cards all the time, but I consider it a method of payment, not a financing tool. I pay it off right away.

The line of credit has a balance unfortunately, but I&#039;m working on getting rid of it as soon as possible. It&#039;s also my emergency fund as I don&#039;t believe in large emergency funds. Doesn&#039;t make sense to me to have a large fund sitting there doing nothing.

I use debit only when they don&#039;t accept VISA.

As for tracking the amounts, I do that on the computer and not by separate accounts. For example, vacation savings go into the LOC. It doesn&#039;t make sense to earn 1% and pay 3.5% on the LOC. I put the money in the LOC, but track the amounts separately.

Once I have more money to save, I&#039;ll open up a higher interest savings account. Like I said now though, it makes more sense to pay less interest.

Glad you found a system that works for you though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just 1 bank account, 1 credit card, 1 line of credit for me. </p>
<p>I use my credit cards all the time, but I consider it a method of payment, not a financing tool. I pay it off right away.</p>
<p>The line of credit has a balance unfortunately, but I&#8217;m working on getting rid of it as soon as possible. It&#8217;s also my emergency fund as I don&#8217;t believe in large emergency funds. Doesn&#8217;t make sense to me to have a large fund sitting there doing nothing.</p>
<p>I use debit only when they don&#8217;t accept VISA.</p>
<p>As for tracking the amounts, I do that on the computer and not by separate accounts. For example, vacation savings go into the LOC. It doesn&#8217;t make sense to earn 1% and pay 3.5% on the LOC. I put the money in the LOC, but track the amounts separately.</p>
<p>Once I have more money to save, I&#8217;ll open up a higher interest savings account. Like I said now though, it makes more sense to pay less interest.</p>
<p>Glad you found a system that works for you though.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a similar setup but I use PCF chequing as my main account. For a bricks and mortar account, I have a basic account at Scotiabank where I get two free transactions per month (rarely used). But if I have rolled coins, or need a certified cheque, or US cash, etc. I go there.

Whenever I travel to Europe I use the Scotia account as they have very good conenctions with other banks. Since I know in advance when I am vacation, I switch my account over to a &#039;regular&#039; account with a $6 or $7 fee for that month and get all my foreign withdrawals covered.

Works well and keeps bank fees to an absolute minimum - often $10 per year or less.

I recently switched my online savings from ING to Ally.ca as well for the extra 0.8% interest. It adds up for no real inconvenience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a similar setup but I use PCF chequing as my main account. For a bricks and mortar account, I have a basic account at Scotiabank where I get two free transactions per month (rarely used). But if I have rolled coins, or need a certified cheque, or US cash, etc. I go there.</p>
<p>Whenever I travel to Europe I use the Scotia account as they have very good conenctions with other banks. Since I know in advance when I am vacation, I switch my account over to a &#8216;regular&#8217; account with a $6 or $7 fee for that month and get all my foreign withdrawals covered.</p>
<p>Works well and keeps bank fees to an absolute minimum &#8211; often $10 per year or less.</p>
<p>I recently switched my online savings from ING to Ally.ca as well for the extra 0.8% interest. It adds up for no real inconvenience.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you, we were nervous about leaving the bricks-and-mortar bank because of the two or three times per year that we need US cash, a certified cheque or have a stash of rolled coin to cash in.  

But we did leave the bricks-and-mortar bank (and their fees).  When we need a certified chq, foreign currency or someone to take our coin, we go to one of the banks that we have a credit card through (CIBC and BMO).  We have also gone to the bank which is affiliated with our brokerage accounts.  It&#039;s been over two years and we have never had a problem dealing with them without a primary account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you, we were nervous about leaving the bricks-and-mortar bank because of the two or three times per year that we need US cash, a certified cheque or have a stash of rolled coin to cash in.  </p>
<p>But we did leave the bricks-and-mortar bank (and their fees).  When we need a certified chq, foreign currency or someone to take our coin, we go to one of the banks that we have a credit card through (CIBC and BMO).  We have also gone to the bank which is affiliated with our brokerage accounts.  It&#8217;s been over two years and we have never had a problem dealing with them without a primary account.</p>
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		<title>By: dlm</title>
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		<dc:creator>dlm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We use PC Mastercard (and free grocery points about $20/month) and Savings, Chequing, ING as well. Will have to check into PC Line of Credit and Home Depot zero percent 6 months.
We spend zero cents for any banking: savings, chequing, cheques, etc.
For a downtown bank we&#039;ve been using Canadian Western (they answer the phone with a live person and answer email; online banking and transfers and bill payments are instantaneous): we started when we had maturing GICs and their savings interest was higher than ING (but you need over $5000 for savings interest) and we got a CWB ATM/Debit Card for Costco till the Am Ex started, then found out you need to spend over $5000 on Am Ex before you get over 1%. We intend to end the Costco and Am Ex at the end of the first year.
Canadian Western Bank has a branch in downtown Regina (their RRSPs have a scratch and win extra 1/8 up to I think 1 full percent).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We use PC Mastercard (and free grocery points about $20/month) and Savings, Chequing, ING as well. Will have to check into PC Line of Credit and Home Depot zero percent 6 months.<br />
We spend zero cents for any banking: savings, chequing, cheques, etc.<br />
For a downtown bank we&#8217;ve been using Canadian Western (they answer the phone with a live person and answer email; online banking and transfers and bill payments are instantaneous): we started when we had maturing GICs and their savings interest was higher than ING (but you need over $5000 for savings interest) and we got a CWB ATM/Debit Card for Costco till the Am Ex started, then found out you need to spend over $5000 on Am Ex before you get over 1%. We intend to end the Costco and Am Ex at the end of the first year.<br />
Canadian Western Bank has a branch in downtown Regina (their RRSPs have a scratch and win extra 1/8 up to I think 1 full percent).</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Dream</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Dream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I thought my kids were good at complicating things.  They have nothing on you Dave! *grin*

Just a question.  If you rarely use your debit card, why not just pull money directly from your CIBC account?

Also what do you buy online that is under $200?  My last online purchase was about $380.  Just wondering.

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I thought my kids were good at complicating things.  They have nothing on you Dave! *grin*</p>
<p>Just a question.  If you rarely use your debit card, why not just pull money directly from your CIBC account?</p>
<p>Also what do you buy online that is under $200?  My last online purchase was about $380.  Just wondering.</p>
<p>Tim</p>
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