# Family Profile: The Baby and Early Retirement – Part II

Posted by Tim Stobbs on March 19, 2009

Well welcome back to part II of the family profile. Well last week it was determined the couple could easily have kids, but what about early retirement? Could they leave the working world at 55? Well to crack that nut we need some net worth information.

**Assets**

Her RRSP (including locked in) = $60,000

His RRSP (including locked in) = $60,000

Her non registered = $190,000

His non registered = $190,000

Her TFSA = $5000

His TFSA = $5000

House (no mortgage) = $400,000 (approx worth)

**Debt **

Her investment loans = $130,000

His investment loans = $120,000

**Net Worth** = $660,000

So that looks good given their ages (35 her, 37 him). Now those investment loans are suppose to be paid off in 20 years, so that would be just in time for retirement (I’m making the assumption that since his is a lower loan that he can pay it off in 18 rather than 20 years). I’m also assuming they retire when he is 55, so they have 18 years to get things together.

Now I wasn’t given a average rate of return to use, but based on what income is coming in on those loans I’m going to estimate their rate of return at 8%. Then let’s shave off 2% for inflation and 1% extra to be a buffer. So I’ll use 5% real return in these calculations.

Rather than try to determine estimate their saving rate I’m going to do this backwards assume zero extra savings for now and define the short fall if there is any.

So let’s grow these accounts forward. The RRSP’s will both grow to $147,000 in today’s dollars each. Then the investment loans I’m assuming 4% of the return goes to paying down the loans with 1% left over for growth. So those would grow to $227,500 each. The TFSA’s would grow to about $12,300 each. Which isn’t much so I’m going to just treat those accounts as extra vacation money and not worry about them. So without adding anything to the accounts they would have $749,000 at age 55.

Other income will be OAS at 65 for $12,400 a year total. CPP I’m going to assume he gets the average pension of $5777/year and she will get half that at $2888/year at age 65 (I’m assuming she is staying home with no income from post baby onwards). Therefore they will take in $21,065/year after 65.

Assuming they keep their spending the same as I proposed last week. The would need about $38,736/year in retirement income.

Now let’s draw down their accounts. I’m going to assume they shift to a bit more conservative portfolio at 55 and they are only earning 4% real return at that time. So from 55 to 65 they drawn down $3228/month. That would leave them with $641,300 at 65.

Then continuing the drawn down at a slower rate since OAS and CPP are now off setting some income requirements. So now they are taking out $1472/month. Which of course to those with handy calculators would realize is less than 4% of their remaining $641,300 at 65. So they won’t run out of money.

So in conclusion, yes they can have kids at once. Yes, she can stay home with the kids and yes they can retire at 55 if they are willing to stop using the cleaning lady and drop their travel budget down to $6000/year once the car payment is done.

Of course there are so many assumptions in these calculations I could be completely wrong, but from a high level analysis it does look possible. Also they could down size the house and free up some cash if need be and the TFSA accounts give them a little extra saving for a few bonus trips in retirement. All in all they look like they will be fine.

### Comments

**2 Responses to “Family Profile: The Baby and Early Retirement – Part II”**

Two quick thoughts.

Basis for 8 % return?

If one has car payments why would the payments ever end? Perhaps a lull for several years, then payments once again for the next car.

CM,

8% was just based on one piece of information I got about the largest portfolio so I just applied it across the board. I can’t disclose much more than that without airing too much information.

Good point on the car. They might want to consider some part time work by her to provide some extra cushion to all of this.

Tim