Comments on: Green Spot: Reinventing the World http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/2008/12/05/green-spot-reinventing-the-world/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:31:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Derek http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/2008/12/05/green-spot-reinventing-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-17064 Derek Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:30:09 +0000 http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/?p=578#comment-17064 I think it might be better to have property tax based on power and water usage. It would more directly tax the overuse of resources and encourage efficiency. I think it might be better to have property tax based on power and water usage. It would more directly tax the overuse of resources and encourage efficiency.

]]> By: Canadian Dream http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/2008/12/05/green-spot-reinventing-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-17033 Canadian Dream Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:05:41 +0000 http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/?p=578#comment-17033 Elaine, Thank you. I was thinking of something similar. You strip companies of personhood and then layer on their new legal structure including the ability of people to sue the company. Joan, I agree the plastic bag thing is well over due. We just need to keep expanding it. I disagree with the other factors you listed for property tax. After all those really aren't included now in my property tax so why would I add them? Tim Elaine,

Thank you. I was thinking of something similar. You strip companies of personhood and then layer on their new legal structure including the ability of people to sue the company.

Joan,

I agree the plastic bag thing is well over due. We just need to keep expanding it.

I disagree with the other factors you listed for property tax. After all those really aren’t included now in my property tax so why would I add them?

Tim

]]> By: Joan http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/2008/12/05/green-spot-reinventing-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-16950 Joan Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:38:44 +0000 http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/?p=578#comment-16950 I agree with #2 the most. I'm glad to see that Toronto is trying to reduce the use of plastic bags by allowing grocery stores to charge 5 cents a piece for them starting in June 2009. It's a small thing, but it should have an impact on the irresponsible way plastic bags are being over used at the moment. Banning bottled water would be another good step or better yet, place a very heavy tax on this item. That may even put a stop to this horrible trend of using bottled water. I'm sure even 15 years ago, we managed to survive without bottled water. I've had people at work asking me why I drink tap water, as though that was a strange thing to do. I admit bottled water is convenient, but don't overdo it. I like #4 as well, but property tax needs to also take into consideration a few other factors, like proximity to amenities such as good public transit, grocery shopping, etc. I agree with #2 the most. I’m glad to see that Toronto is trying to reduce the use of plastic bags by allowing grocery stores to charge 5 cents a piece for them starting in June 2009. It’s a small thing, but it should have an impact on the irresponsible way plastic bags are being over used at the moment.

Banning bottled water would be another good step or better yet, place a very heavy tax on this item. That may even put a stop to this horrible trend of using bottled water. I’m sure even 15 years ago, we managed to survive without bottled water. I’ve had people at work asking me why I drink tap water, as though that was a strange thing to do. I admit bottled water is convenient, but don’t overdo it.

I like #4 as well, but property tax needs to also take into consideration a few other factors, like proximity to amenities such as good public transit, grocery shopping, etc.

]]> By: Momma http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/2008/12/05/green-spot-reinventing-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-16928 Momma Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:43:21 +0000 http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/?p=578#comment-16928 Hi there, just discovered your site today! Good to find a Canadian site (DH is Canadian!) We also write a personal finance/frugal blog. Feel free to check it out - Engineer a Debt Free Life at http://www.engineeradebtfreelife.com. We have lots of money saving tips, bargains, and freebies, plus links to some legitimate paid survey sites (yes, some work even in Canada, lol) and even a place where you can get paid to search the internet! Keep up the great work on your site! Momma Feature blogger at http://www.engineeradebtfreelife.com Hi there, just discovered your site today! Good to find a Canadian site (DH is Canadian!) We also write a personal finance/frugal blog. Feel free to check it out – Engineer a Debt Free Life at http://www.engineeradebtfreelife.com. We have lots of money saving tips, bargains, and freebies, plus links to some legitimate paid survey sites (yes, some work even in Canada, lol) and even a place where you can get paid to search the internet!

Keep up the great work on your site!

Momma
Feature blogger at http://www.engineeradebtfreelife.com

]]> By: Money Minder http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/2008/12/05/green-spot-reinventing-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-16927 Money Minder Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:08:06 +0000 http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/?p=578#comment-16927 #4 is my favourite and it could be plausible #4 is my favourite and it could be plausible

]]> By: jo http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/2008/12/05/green-spot-reinventing-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-16926 jo Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:24:53 +0000 http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/?p=578#comment-16926 I disagree with the premise that separate legal entity status for corps keeps them accountable. Mostly it provides a shield to protect the human beings at the controls. Lift that shield and make those people personally liable. I love the property tax based on square foot idea.. that is brilliant.. I disagree with the premise that separate legal entity status for corps keeps them accountable. Mostly it provides a shield to protect the human beings at the controls. Lift that shield and make those people personally liable.

I love the property tax based on square foot idea.. that is brilliant..

]]> By: Elaine http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/2008/12/05/green-spot-reinventing-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-16922 Elaine Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:32:42 +0000 http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/?p=578#comment-16922 #1 need not be that hard. Currently the logic is as follows. Premise 1: Only people can be sued. Premise 2: We should be allowed to sue corporations also. Conclusion: Therefore corporations should be people. wtf? The answer isn't to draw that conclusion. It's to change Premise 1 so that it says "People AND corporations can be sued". Easy. #1 need not be that hard. Currently the logic is as follows.

Premise 1: Only people can be sued.
Premise 2: We should be allowed to sue corporations also.
Conclusion: Therefore corporations should be people.

wtf? The answer isn’t to draw that conclusion. It’s to change Premise 1 so that it says “People AND corporations can be sued”. Easy.

]]> By: Traciatim http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/2008/12/05/green-spot-reinventing-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-16921 Traciatim Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:07:58 +0000 http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/?p=578#comment-16921 I have to agree with Jordan on the #1 item, having a corporation act like a person keeps them accountable. I would like to add in that subsidies to solar space and water heating systems which should bring the drain on our power requirement WAY down would be great. This would especially be needed as people migrate to electric cars when we have a technology to quickly charge them. Getting 30Kwh of power in to a battery/capacitor type device in an hour is a fricken lot of current. I have to agree with Jordan on the #1 item, having a corporation act like a person keeps them accountable.

I would like to add in that subsidies to solar space and water heating systems which should bring the drain on our power requirement WAY down would be great. This would especially be needed as people migrate to electric cars when we have a technology to quickly charge them. Getting 30Kwh of power in to a battery/capacitor type device in an hour is a fricken lot of current.

]]> By: Jordan http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/2008/12/05/green-spot-reinventing-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-16918 Jordan Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:26:27 +0000 http://blog.canadian-dream-free-at-45.com/?p=578#comment-16918 I like your ideas, they would be hard to nail down, but I still have to disagree with you #1. Having corporate personhood also keeps companies accountable. Without it they couldn't can enter into contracts and couldn't be sued. I agree it feels wrong that corporate is a separate entity, but it is a necessity to allow new businesses to be formed and take risks. I'd also add that I think the "Gas Guzzler" tax needs to be thrown out. It should be replaced with a general gas tax which is a fair tax on actual usage. The gas guzzler tax exempts trucks which are all gas guzzlers and second it isn't fair to someone who has a legitimate need for a "big" SUV but also makes choices to only use it sparingly when needed. I like your ideas, they would be hard to nail down, but I still have to disagree with you #1.

Having corporate personhood also keeps companies accountable. Without it they couldn’t can enter into contracts and couldn’t be sued. I agree it feels wrong that corporate is a separate entity, but it is a necessity to allow new businesses to be formed and take risks.

I’d also add that I think the “Gas Guzzler” tax needs to be thrown out. It should be replaced with a general gas tax which is a fair tax on actual usage. The gas guzzler tax exempts trucks which are all gas guzzlers and second it isn’t fair to someone who has a legitimate need for a “big” SUV but also makes choices to only use it sparingly when needed.

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